“Even the sinners dream”
Your sixth most recent emoji is how your guardian angel feels about you
Observation: Crowley’s eyes were significantly easier to see, the times he was wearing glasses (imo).
Speculation: He was a lot more comfortable opening his heart up after the apocalypse and they were “not really” pretending to be just friends anymore.
Prediction: Crowley’s shades in S3 are going to be pitch fucking black, impossible to see anything. You know why. 😭
I don’t think I will ever get over the way Crowley’s voice shook when he said (paraphrasing because I have no decent internet to rewatch and quote exactly), “I was there when you told my only friend to shut his stupid mouth and die.”
this kills me. crowley had to stop and look away from aziraphale. his voice was nearly failing him, he kept taking deep shaking breaths. he completely laid himself bare. and then.
He is so heart achingly raw and vulnerable and beautiful there.
The light behind him, it almost suggests feathers…
Now that you mention it, with the light shining down at him, it really highlights him as a fallen angel.
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lipservice666 asked:
thank you so much for the new season, it was amazing and as sad as it was i loved the ending.
i was just wondering on a second rewatch about if the clock in the background of the kiss scene changing by 15 minutes was a continuity error or intentional?
i hate get caught up in minor details when they weren't intended. i doubt it was since you've always been so intentional in ever minor detail of the story but would love any answer you can give.
thank you!!
neil-gaiman answered:
Sounds like a continuity error to me, I’m afraid.
Ok you know what though, something WEIRD is happening with the clock the ENTIRE scene, and I'm not buying that the whole thing was a continuity error.
So during the kiss, there being 15 minutes of missing time sounds like it could easily be a continuity error between takes, sure.
HOWEVER, when Crowley walks back into the shop after his visit to Heaven, it looks like it's 6am, and the background is beginning to brighten. That shot is pretty clear.
It stays ~6, which tracks with the length of the scene, until Gabriel gets his memories back. At that point, the clock looks to read ~7 or so. I can't take screenshots of the scene, so maybe someone can look and provide them.
So either there are a lot of continuity errors for a show that prides itself on being ridiculously detailed (for a scene in which they went to the effort of setting it to the right time to begin with) or everyone just stood there for an hour without talking or moving while Gabriel veged out exploring his memories.
And THEN, the argument continues after that about inter-department relationships, and Crowley escorts our human friends out of the shop before they become pillars of salt. He literally walks them outside then back, and from the brief snapshot I see (when Aziraphale is ringing the bell, the shot is right over Dagon's shoulder) it looks like it says 8-something.
And then the Metatron walks in with his coffee. At this point the clock is pretty clearly showing 9. We can see the Metatron in line when Crowley walks Nina and Maggie out (around 7) -- so he was waiting at the shop for two hours? And the whole thing took three hours?
I could believe that the scene cuts inserted a little more time than the literal time elapsed, but at this point we're looking at A LOT of downtime for our characters because that ~15 minute chunk of screen time supposedly happened over the course of three hours.
Like I said, I can't take screenshots because all I have is Amazon, and I'm rewatching this on my phone -- but the scene pretty clearly starts at 6, and pretty clearly ends up (15 minutes of elapsed screentime later) at 9. And that's suspicious.
To add to this, when they walk outside, Nina remarks, “I should’ve been open an hour ago!”
I couldn’t find any scenes with posted hours, BUT in episode 4 Nina rolls up on her bike and begins opening her shop. She gets a nasty message from her girlfriend, and her phone reads 6:47 – so I presume her shop opens at 7am.
Making it presumably 8am when Crowley walks Maggie and Nina outside.
And again, the clock is pretty clearly pointing at 6am at the beginning of the scene, and when Michael makes their “pillars of salt” comment, Maggie and Nina are pretty clearly standing in the same spot. For two hours?!
That makes me even MORE suspicious, because the beginning of the scene was chosen to be around dawn and someone set the clock accordingly, which was then on display behind Aziraphale. And then a specific choice was made to have Nina comment on being an hour past opening when walking outside.
IT’S JUST WEIRD, OKAY?
lipservice666 asked:
thank you so much for the new season, it was amazing and as sad as it was i loved the ending.
i was just wondering on a second rewatch about if the clock in the background of the kiss scene changing by 15 minutes was a continuity error or intentional?
i hate get caught up in minor details when they weren't intended. i doubt it was since you've always been so intentional in ever minor detail of the story but would love any answer you can give.
thank you!!
neil-gaiman answered:
Sounds like a continuity error to me, I’m afraid.
Ok you know what though, something WEIRD is happening with the clock the ENTIRE scene, and I’m not buying that the whole thing was a continuity error.
So during the kiss, there being 15 minutes of missing time sounds like it could easily be a continuity error between takes, sure.
HOWEVER, when Crowley walks back into the shop after his visit to Heaven, it looks like it’s 6am, and the background is beginning to brighten. That shot is pretty clear.
It stays ~6, which tracks with the length of the scene, until Gabriel gets his memories back. At that point, the clock looks to read ~7 or so. I can’t take screenshots of the scene, so maybe someone can look and provide them.
So either there are a lot of continuity errors for a show that prides itself on being ridiculously detailed (for a scene in which they went to the effort of setting it to the right time to begin with) or everyone just stood there for an hour without talking or moving while Gabriel veged out exploring his memories.
And THEN, the argument continues after that about inter-department relationships, and Crowley escorts our human friends out of the shop before they become pillars of salt. He literally walks them outside then back, and from the brief snapshot I see (when Aziraphale is ringing the bell, the shot is right over Dagon’s shoulder) it looks like it says 8-something.
And then the Metatron walks in with his coffee. At this point the clock is pretty clearly showing 9. We can see the Metatron in line when Crowley walks Nina and Maggie out (around 7) – so he was waiting at the shop for two hours? And the whole thing took three hours?
I could believe that the scene cuts inserted a little more time than the literal time elapsed, but at this point we’re looking at A LOT of downtime for our characters because that ~15 minute chunk of screen time supposedly happened over the course of three hours.
Like I said, I can’t take screenshots because all I have is Amazon, and I’m rewatching this on my phone – but the scene pretty clearly starts at 6, and pretty clearly ends up (15 minutes of elapsed screentime later) at 9. And that’s suspicious.
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I just love everything about the 1941 episode. The car scene was straight out of my imagination about what happened after (including Crowley yanking the wheel hard which pushes Aziraphale into him – so delicious).
And that part where Crowley’s hands were trembling because he might hit his angel? Help. I’m immobile.
Not to mention all the other gravy in the episode.
Crowley entertaining Aziraphale’s whims. Aziraphale practically squealing with delight as he grabs his hand.
The face Aziraphale makes when they share some wine by candlelight.
“Aziraphale.” said in That Voice™.
Everything about the minisode was chef’s kiss.
i love taking jabs at The Ineffables' horrific communication skills as much as the next guy but i hope you all understand that their piss-poor communication is built upon centuries of having to deny the truth of their relationship and having to take orders from Mega Powerful Organizations that they don't necessarily agree with but could kill them if opposed
all of their interactions until the end of Armageddon't had to be hidden under layers of deception, excuses, and plausible deniability — clandestine meetings at St. James' Park, risking discorporation via guillotine for a lunch date in Paris, "go back to my place" "my side won't like that", not accepting each other's gratitude. the same could be said for anything they did that their head offices don't agree with — doing good deeds because laudanum might not make him accountable for his actions, saving the Earth against heaven's wishes under the guise of thwarting a demon, having sushi to "live like the locals" when really he just likes sushi and interesting restaurants where they know his name. they never learned to be completely honest with each other, or with anyone (including themselves) for that matter.
it's honestly a testament to how strong their connection is that they've grown to trust each other so deeply ("i knew you'd come through for me, you always do" / "i can rely on you and you can rely on me"), given the circumstances. how do you place all your faith in someone despite the fact that you two could only ever whisper half-truths and read between the lines? god i love them
now that the walls are down, they're learning how to voice everything they never could out loud. it's clumsy, and painstaking, and they might cause each other grief along the way, but they'll get the hang of it, little by little
I was about to write something exactly like this.
Admittedly, I was shocked and heartbroken at the end of S2 because I felt like the “they don’t communicate” came entirely out of left field. It felt like I had lost everything I had liked about their relationship in S1 – the idea that they had grown to know each other intimately (emotionally, anyway), well enough to say everything they needed without saying anything at all. The idea that they would come together and be together, no matter what.
It was so heartbreaking, that at first I wanted to pretend like s2 didn’t even exist, until closer to s3 where I am confident things will be resolved. I didn’t want to lose everything that was comforting about the show before.
But then, after spending some time thinking about it, it made perfect sense.
Of course they don’t know how to communicate properly – they couldn’t. They had to imply and guess and infer and hope they got it right. They had to dance without ever agreeing on what the dance was or confirming that everyone knew the steps. Their relationship in S1 respects the very real danger they are in if they ever say these things out loud, their entire means of communication is based upon the context of “eternal death if anyone finds out about us”. And they knew how to dance this dance, they had learned and created the steps together over 6000 years.
So it only makes sense to me that losing this context would create the sort of problems we see in S2. It seems like they are both speaking the language they think the other wants to hear, but they don’t realize this at all.
Aziraphale is talking the language that Crowley has wanted to use. He says “we/us/our”. He puts his hands on Crowley whenever he can. He is, for all intents and purposes, saying “I love you” all the time without ever actually saying it.
Crowley is still speaking the language of respecting “you go too fast for me Crowley”. He doesn’t turn down anything from Aziraphale, but doesn’t initiate anything more. It doesn’t hit him until the very end, it seems like, that they’ve stopped pretending for the last few years.
It seems like they WERE speaking the same language, but now everything has changed. They were dancing the same dance, but now someone has changed the music to something they’ve never heard before.
They’ve never spoken this out-loud language together. They’ve only ever spoken the language of “I don’t want to lose you by being too loud”. Of course it sounds like Aziraphale’s French – they have never done this before.
Now, I feel like we haven’t lost anything from s1. I just feel like it was different. The circumstances have changed, and so has the context with which they understood each other. The music they used to dance to.
And now they have to relearn the steps. And I’m sure that they will.
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